Culture critic and Side-Eye Sorceress Luvvie Ajayi dropped the fifth episode of her podcast Rants and Randomness today, featuring OkayAfrica and Okayplayer's very own Abiola Oke.

Ajayi utilizes this platform to do what she does best discussing pop culture and relevant happenings in her life, including amplifying her guests and their perspectives. At the beginning of this episode, you'll hear Ajayi highlight her teenaged nephew, who she discovered admires her from afar, as well as her obsession with Will Smith's Instagram page and disdain for Spirit Airlines (just don't do it, y'all).

Once her conversation with Oke gets going, they touch on the known tension between African and African Americans that has been lessened, especially post- Black Panther, his possible political aspirations in Nigeria and more. In the midst of their organic and funny banter, you'll learn so many new things about our CEO that was news to even Ajayi, who's a close friend of his.

You'll want to dig into this episode. Listen to the full episode here or below.