You had the idea to make this film before you went to study filmmaking – were you working on it while studying at the same time?

I told my supervisor about this idea, that this is the film I want to make. I feel like my family's story is an important story. There's the history of a country that is tied to our story, and I felt like we didn't have any grip on it at all as a family. Like our albums were missing photographs. So yeah, I was thinking about it, but I didn't take any concrete steps towards making it until I finished my studies. This is at the end of 2018, when I met my producer Sam Soko. He was interested in making a film about, or based in, South Sudan, and he was looking for a co-director. That's how we met. I kind of pitched him this idea and hijacked his other one. So then we started on it after I finished university.

How open were your mom and sister to being in the film and being interviewed for it?

My mom and my sister, who play quite a big role in the film, were very open and very generous with their time and their selves. Some people were not as open, but I understand, for privacy reasons, they just weren't into it. Not everybody who wants to be in front of the camera, and I have a big family. In the beginning, I didn’t have everything perfectly aligned and fully formed. So there was a lot of searching and a lot of discovery. And so where there was a greater openness is where I would basically go, within my own family even. I think there was a sense of, ‘This is right to do.’ Back when I said earlier about feeling as a family we didn't have a grip on our own story, I think there was a sense of ‘Yes, it makes sense to do this.’ The timing felt right, as much as I was also very nervous, because of the intimidation that comes from film as a storytelling medium. But I certainly felt like it was the right time. And we didn't know when we started that my mom would take this position [of vice president]. South Sudan is very volatile. So when we started filming, it was like, it could happen, there's a possibility of her taking this big role, but it also could be that the peace process falls apart, and we're back at war. With documentaries, you can plan and plan and think about scenarios but reality is just the best story-teller.

What was it like filming in South Sudan?

What are you most proud of in making this documentary?

Well, recently, I showed it to my mom. That was a great moment, because she's quite unpredictable, and I didn't know how she was going to take it. And she loved it. She says it opened doors for her. I thought maybe she might say, ‘Oh, maybe we don't want to say this' or there might have been concerns with saying something risky, so that's what I was also listening out for in her comments, and I didn't hear any of that. So by the end of the conversation after the screening, I was just like, I know she means what she says. I'd say that moment that that was an amazing moment.

Initially, you just wanted to get the film made, and you not only did that, but it was selected for the Berlin Film Festival...

We're overjoyed to be screening at the Berlinale, but we still don't know how it will be received and what kind of life it's going to have. Screening it for my mom and my sister put things into perspective. It made it less about prestige. Not that I dismiss something like screening at the Berlinale, I understand how that can help a film's life. But it's about perspective again. When we talk about who we want to see the film, I'd say the film is asking questions about what it means to come home in an African context. And South Sudan has a huge diaspora. Very scattered. There are people in Australia, and in the US, and a lot of us grew up outside. And I think even beyond South Sudan, if you think about an African diaspora who people were born and raised outside but have African parents, and may have thought about what it means to come home, there's either a very romanticized view of it or very tragic or dismissive, so it can be kind of polarizing. But the reality of it is mixed and it's strange -- you know, coming home and not speaking the language, and all these things.

I think it would be interesting for a diaspora audience, and that's some of the feedback we've gotten from people who we've spoken to about it. So we want the film to have as big a public life possible. We don't want it to be inaccessible to people who it's about. So those are the things that we were thinking about, and things are dynamic when you're talking about where you want the film to go. It's dependent on more than what we want.

When you started, you were going to make a film only about your family, but it's become a film about what it means to come home. What does home mean for you?

So that question is still not answered. A line that we had in the film that we took out was that I was born in Cuba and raised in Kenya. I don't know anything about Cuba. Because of the liberation struggle, we've sort of been taught to not fully, assimilate, and a part of you wants to resist assimilating because of patriotism. But you don't have any other home. So it's really complicated. My sister who made the concrete decision to go back [to South Sudan] and make a life there, she makes it look easy. But she’s embodying the choice. She's learning and growing into it, and she's, in fact, now preferring to be in South Sudan than anywhere else. It makes me feel more hopeful of seeing South Sudan as home. But I'm not where she is yet.