Revered South African talk radio host Eusebius McKaiser hosts the morning show on the talks station 702, The Eusebius McKaiser Show. This morning, he discussed inclusivity in hip-hop, particularly in terms of gender and sexual orientation. Joining him were the rapper Mx Blouse and OkayAfrica staff writer, Sabelo Mkhabela, who covers a lot of hip-hop for this website.

With the success of queer artists like Lil Nas X, it's clear that hip-hop is changing, but is it really?

Mx Blouse, who's a gender non-confirming artist, has the first-hand experience and shared their insights and experiences in the game. "Hip-hop tends to look more misogynistic and more homophobic than the rest of society when it is actually just a reflection of society," says Mx Blouse.

Adding on, Sabelo Mkhabela suggested that the conversation extends further than hip-hop and music, saying, "This is a conversation about society and not necessarily about hip hop because the genre is made up of ordinary people in society. It always holds a mirror on who we are."

The conversation touched on a few points, including the treatment male queer rappers face as opposed to female queer rappers. It was discussed if hip-hop in its current form will survive in a world where inclusivity and political correctness are part of the zeitgeist, given that a lot of misogyny and homophobia exist in hip-hop.

Callers on the show added their takes, with Lee Kasumba, a highly respected hip-hop media icon, calling in too. She agreed with the guests that hip-hop only holds the mirror to society, and that profanity can be used to drive a point home.

Listen to the segment below and revisit our interview with Mx Blouse here.